My new photosite

[Marco Struck]

Hi,

I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.

The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.

Hope you enjoy:

http://zone23.net/


Greets, Marco.

[Jeff Jones]

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few photos
I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.

Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal either.
Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At least you show a
good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly. That's much more than I
can say for any of the other dufusses (dufi) that post to these forums. At
least you won't be damaging the visual centers of anyone's brains. Unlike
the rest in these newsgroups.

[Jeff Jones]

Post by Jeff Jones

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few photos
I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.
Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal either.
Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At least you show a
good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly. That's much more than I
can say for any of the other dufusses (dufi) that post to these forums. At
least you won't be damaging the visual centers of anyone's brains. Unlike
the rest in these newsgroups.

A few that I would give a B+ to. Some almost verging on an A-

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=9

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=16

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=20

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=36

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=46

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=68

If you had either the waves or the jellyfish in better focus this could
have been a strong A-, but your eye for composition made it work. On second
look, a difficult call, it still works like it is. I like it a lot but
shouldn't. Technically a C-, artistically a strong A- to almost an A.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=174

A strong A- because I'm a fan of Escher.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=175

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=202

Good subject, but the composition was slightly off.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=241


The rest of these dolts could learn a lot about composition from you. Even
when a subject is lack-luster your eye for composition saves it. (most of
the time)

p.s. Your website works well. Clean and simple. Nothing too fancy to
detract from what's important. Unlike most others who can't dazzle with
brilliance so they try to baffle with web-site bullshit.

[Michael J Davis]

Post by Jeff Jones

Post by Jeff Jones

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/

Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few photos
I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.
Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal either.
Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At least you show a
good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly. That's much more than I
can say for any of the other dufusses (dufi) that post to these forums. At
least you won't be damaging the visual centers of anyone's brains. Unlike
the rest in these newsgroups.

A few that I would give a B+ to. Some almost verging on an A-
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=9
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=16
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=20
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=36
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=46
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=68
If you had either the waves or the jellyfish in better focus this could
have been a strong A-, but your eye for composition made it work. On second
look, a difficult call, it still works like it is. I like it a lot but
shouldn't. Technically a C-, artistically a strong A- to almost an A.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=174
A strong A- because I'm a fan of Escher.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=175
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=202
Good subject, but the composition was slightly off.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=241
The rest of these dolts could learn a lot about composition from you. Even
when a subject is lack-luster your eye for composition saves it. (most of
the time)
p.s. Your website works well. Clean and simple. Nothing too fancy to
detract from what's important. Unlike most others who can't dazzle with
brilliance so they try to baffle with web-site bullshit.

Without trying to give marks (or make ad hominem remarks), I would agree
in general with the above comments. There's an attempt to see things in
a fresh way, and mostly, as you say, Jeff, with an eye to composition.

A few could do with revison, eg. http://zone23.net/?showimage=89
Here the alignment would be better with the verticals rather than the
horizontals. But the image isn't strong enough to bother.

But overall a pleasant set, combining simple record shots, racoons, owls
etc. with some good pictorial.

Mike
--
Michael J Davis

www.flickr.com/photos/watchman

<><
"I never have taken a picture I've intended.
They're always better or worse."
Diane Arbus
<><

[Marco Struck]

Post by Michael J Davis
But overall a pleasant set, combining simple record shots, racoons,
owls etc. with some good pictorial.

Thank you very much, nice to hear that. :-)

Greets, Marco.

--
http:/zone23.net

[Marco Struck]

Post by Robert Coe
On Wed, 26 May 2010 06:33:59 -0500, Jeff Jones

Hi,

first I want to apologize for replying so lately.

Post by Robert Coe

Post by Jeff Jones

Post by Marco Struck
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few
photos I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.
Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal
either. Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At
least you show a good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly.
That's much more than I can say for any of the other dufusses
(dufi) that post to these forums. At least you won't be damaging
the visual centers of anyone's brains. Unlike the rest in these
newsgroups.

An overall fair and true statement, at least the part you're talking
about my pictures. Thank you.

Post by Robert Coe
If you had either the waves or the jellyfish in better focus this
could have been a strong A-, but your eye for composition made it
work. On second look, a difficult call, it still works like it is. I
like it a lot but shouldn't. Technically a C-, artistically a strong
A- to almost an A. http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=174

The funny thing about this picture is, that it made it's way into the
gallery by fortuity. The Original is nearly black with a scheme of a
dark grey jellyfish, extremely noisy in the dark tones. So I was just
fooling around with the picture, raising brightness and contrast, when
I discovered the colors in the picture, finally applying a noisefilter.
There it is, a nice example why to use RAW-Format... ;-)

Post by Robert Coe
A strong A- because I'm a fan of Escher.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=175

Same process as the jellyfish, but much better RAW-Material. I had to
photograph into dark black-blue water, but didn't want to let those
fishes escape without being photographed...

Post by Robert Coe
Good subject, but the composition was slightly off.
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=241

Absolutely. I am thinking about a new version with different cut-out
and better lens- and exposure-correction.

Post by Robert Coe
The rest of these dolts could learn a lot about composition from you.
Even when a subject is lack-luster your eye for composition saves it.
(most of the time)

Very perceptive and true, non-ironic. I need to find some more
compelling subjects, therefore I am thinking about some projects to
start with... but it will take a few years to present any results,
because I need more time and equipment.

Greets, Marco.


--
http://zone23.net

[GMAN]

Post by Jeff Jones

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few photos
I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.
Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal either.
Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At least you show a
good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly. That's much more than I
can say for any of the other dufusses (dufi) that post to these forums. At
least you won't be damaging the visual centers of anyone's brains. Unlike
the rest in these newsgroups.

Does your wife also think that you are an arrogant prick?

[n***@ntlworld.com]

On Wed, 26 May 2010 15:53:04 GMT

Post by GMAN
Does your wife also think that you are an arrogant prick?

You think any woman would have him?

[Robert Coe]

On Wed, 26 May 2010 06:33:59 -0500, Jeff Jones <***@mailinator.com>
wrote:
: On 26 May 2010 10:49:02 GMT, "Marco Struck" <***@web.de> wrote:
:
: >Hi,
: >
: >I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
: >just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
: >viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
: >you like it.
: >
: >The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
: >keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
: >clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
: >Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
: >prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
: >chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
: >the left side.
: >
: >Hope you enjoy:
: >
: >http://zone23.net/
: >
: >
: >Greets, Marco.
:
: Lots of standard stock-photography. Overall grade about a C+, a few photos
: I'd give a B- to, maybe even a B+ for one or two.
:
: Not bad. But in my browsing I didn't spot anything phenomenal either.
: Though I didn't view them all, just a good sampling. At least you show a
: good grasp and breadth of using a camera properly. That's much more than I
: can say for any of the other dufusses (dufi) that post to these forums.

Actually it's "dufis" (with a long "i" - dative plural).

: At least you won't be damaging the visual centers of anyone's brains.
: Unlike the rest in these newsgroups.

I don't know how we can be expected to improve, unless you condescend to show
us more of your own excellent work. I looked at some of the recent Shoot-Ins,
and it appears that through some oversight you haven't been submitting
anything lately. Why is that, I wonder.

Bob

[Paul Giverin]

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

I really liked your shots.

This one stood out for me but I think it may have been over-sharpened ;)

http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

[Peter]

Post by Paul Giverin

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/
Greets, Marco.

I really liked your shots.
This one stood out for me but I think it may have been over-sharpened ;)
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

I get your point.

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by Peter

Post by Paul Giverin

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/

I really liked your shots.
This one stood out for me but I think it may have been over-sharpened ;)
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

I get your point.

No need to be so blunt.
--

- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Rob]

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Peter

Post by Paul Giverin

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/

I really liked your shots.
This one stood out for me but I think it may have been over-sharpened ;)
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

I get your point.

No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Peter

Post by Paul Giverin

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/

I really liked your shots.
This one stood out for me but I think it may have been
over-sharpened ;)
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

I get your point.

No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[David]

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " >>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF ">>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

What makes you think I shooting blanks?
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Rob]

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF ">>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

What makes you think I shooting blanks?

You pointing something out.

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by Rob

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF ">>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

What makes you think I'm shooting blanks?

You pointing something out.

Well, not to put too fine a point on it but I'm no pencil neck.
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Peter]

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF "

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF ">>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

What makes you think I'm shooting blanks?

You pointing something out.

Well, not to put too fine a point on it but I'm no pencil neck.

We ought to erase this thread

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by David
" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF "

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF ">>>> I get your point.

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Post by Rob

Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
No need to be so blunt.

This is all a bit pointless.

Now you're just rubbing it in.

Who took the lead out of your pencil?

What makes you think I'm shooting blanks?

You pointing something out.

Well, not to put too fine a point on it but I'm no pencil neck.

We ought to erase this thread

What's the matter? Are you getting rubbed the wrong way?
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Mr.T]

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

MrT.

[Pete]

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would
be for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've
tried the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely large
pencil.

[Peter]

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would be
for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've tried
the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

[Alan Browne]

Post by Peter

Post by Pete

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would
be for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've
tried the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely
large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.

Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no way
of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.

Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

[Pete]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter

Post by Pete

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would
be for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've
tried the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely
large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no way
of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

I wonder what their pencils look like.

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by Pete

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter

Post by Pete

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would
be for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've
tried the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely
large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no
way of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

I wonder what their pencils look like.

There's an infinite variety of them.
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Peter]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter
Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no way of
knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the universe
will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the farthest reaches
of the universe will be receding from us faster than the speed of light
(relative to us) so we will never know how big the universe might get -
unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

That statement is a classic oxymoron.
How can infinity exist outside itself.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter
Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no
way of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

That statement is a classic oxymoron.
How can infinity exist outside itself.

No oxymoron.

First off, even if the universe is finite, the notion of infinity
remains as it is mathematical, abstract (as I pointed out above).

Our universe is not known to be infinite. Per cosmologists it is
bounded. So other universes may exist "outside" "in parallel" etc. and
each universe may or may not be infinite (many dimensions in space allow
for many configurations of "infinity"). See SciAm about 3 or 4 months
ago for a variety of models. None proven of course.

Cosmologists do not think in 3 dimensional space when considering these
things.

[Peter]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter
Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no
way of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

That statement is a classic oxymoron.
How can infinity exist outside itself.

No oxymoron.
First off, even if the universe is finite, the notion of infinity remains
as it is mathematical, abstract (as I pointed out above).
Our universe is not known to be infinite. Per cosmologists it is bounded.
So other universes may exist "outside" "in parallel" etc. and each
universe may or may not be infinite (many dimensions in space allow for
many configurations of "infinity"). See SciAm about 3 or 4 months ago for
a variety of models. None proven of course.
Cosmologists do not think in 3 dimensional space when considering these
things.

While I agree that infinity is a mathematical expression, how can infinity
exist outside itself?

[Huge]

Post by Peter
While I agree that infinity is a mathematical expression, how can infinity
exist outside itself?

Think about the difference between the infinities of integers and the
infinties of real numbers. There are infinitely more infinities of reals
than of integers, since there are an infinite number of real numbers
between each integer.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter
Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no
way of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

That statement is a classic oxymoron.
How can infinity exist outside itself.

No oxymoron.
First off, even if the universe is finite, the notion of infinity
remains as it is mathematical, abstract (as I pointed out above).
Our universe is not known to be infinite. Per cosmologists it is
bounded. So other universes may exist "outside" "in parallel" etc. and
each universe may or may not be infinite (many dimensions in space
allow for many configurations of "infinity"). See SciAm about 3 or 4
months ago for a variety of models. None proven of course.
Cosmologists do not think in 3 dimensional space when considering
these things.

While I agree that infinity is a mathematical expression, how can
infinity exist outside itself?

I wasn't speaking of the mathematical sense but of cosmological
concepts. Again: see the SciAm issue of several months back.

Appropriately the answer is on page 42.

[Peter]

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Peter
Does infinity exist?

Infinity is a state or concept so its existence is up to you.
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no
way of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes
each without its own infinity or some expanding infinitely and others not.

That statement is a classic oxymoron.
How can infinity exist outside itself.

No oxymoron.
First off, even if the universe is finite, the notion of infinity
remains as it is mathematical, abstract (as I pointed out above).
Our universe is not known to be infinite. Per cosmologists it is
bounded. So other universes may exist "outside" "in parallel" etc. and
each universe may or may not be infinite (many dimensions in space
allow for many configurations of "infinity"). See SciAm about 3 or 4
months ago for a variety of models. None proven of course.
Cosmologists do not think in 3 dimensional space when considering
these things.

While I agree that infinity is a mathematical expression, how can
infinity exist outside itself?

I wasn't speaking of the mathematical sense but of cosmological concepts.
Again: see the SciAm issue of several months back.
Appropriately the answer is on page 42.

I read it. Logic 101 says it is an oxymoron.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

[Mr.T]

Post by Alan Browne
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no way
of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.

If this were true, we have no way of knowing it hasn't already happened, no
need to wait a few billion years to engage in such speculation.

Post by Alan Browne
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes

Or perhaps not. I'll happily speculate on one thing though, I bet we don't
find out in our lifetimes!

MrT.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Mr.T

Post by Alan Browne
Distance in this universe is thought to be bounded, but there is no way
of knowing what is outside the universe, if anything, nor if the
universe will expand infinitely. Within a few billion years the
farthest reaches of the universe will be receding from us faster than
the speed of light (relative to us) so we will never know how big the
universe might get - unless it collapses again.

If this were true, we have no way of knowing it hasn't already happened, no
need to wait a few billion years to engage in such speculation.

Post by Alan Browne
Outside our universe there are perhaps an infinite number of universes

Or perhaps not. I'll happily speculate on one thing though, I bet we don't
find out in our lifetimes!

That's the bittersweet life of cosmologists. Hawking is probably
deserving of the Nobel Physics prize but his "blackhole radiation"
theory has not been proven - _maybe_ will be proven with the LHC before
he dies (no post-humous awards).

[Albert Ross]

On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:05:34 -0400, "Peter"

Post by Peter

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would be
for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've tried
the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

Only if you can find a big enough pencil to draw it

[Rob]

Post by Albert Ross
On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:05:34 -0400, "Peter"

Post by Peter

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

A sharp observation: I'd always wondered what the depth of field would be
for a 0mm lens with an aperture of f/0, now I know :-) I would've tried
the test myself, but I've been unable to find an infinitely large pencil.

Does infinity exist?

Only if you can find a big enough pencil to draw it

I'll pencil that in.

[Marco Struck]

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

Somehow, yes. It's a Auto-Revuenon 50mm, a relabeled Pentacon from the
GDR, 25 years old or even much older, with a M42 Screwmount. Screwed on
a M42 macro-tube, screwed on an adapter to the EOS-mount. Fully manual
and mechanic... so, there will be no exif-data available to the camera.

Just in case there's any interest... ;-)

Marco.

--
http://zone23.net

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Post by Marco Struck

Post by Mr.T

Post by Paul Giverin
http://zone23.net/index.php?showimage=60

Taken with a focal length of 0mm? Very unusual lens :-)

Somehow, yes. It's a Auto-Revuenon 50mm, a relabeled Pentacon from the
GDR, 25 years old or even much older, with a M42 Screwmount. Screwed on
a M42 macro-tube, screwed on an adapter to the EOS-mount. Fully manual
and mechanic... so, there will be no exif-data available to the camera.
Just in case there's any interest... ;-)
Marco.

So its a stuck on macro?
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

[Marco Struck]

Post by Paul Giverin
I really liked your shots.

Thank you. :-)

Marco.

--
http://zone23.net

[Tzortzakakis Dimitris]

Post by Marco Struck
Hi,
I nearly finished my new photosite, at least all the photos are online,
just a few details left to be done. Ofcourse I would like to have some
viewers and comments, so feel invited to have a look and let me know if
you like it.
The Site is german, but I intentionally left the navigation and
keywords in english, allowing international visitors to navigate. By
clicking on the following link a random image will be presented to you.
Select 1 of the 3 random thumbnails below, or the 2 possible next- and
prev-links, or just click on the browse-link to get to the reversed
chronological overview, which can be filtered by categories and tags on
the left side.
http://zone23.net/

Ja, richtig, sehr gut:-)Die Fotos sind eingezeichnet!

[Marco Struck]

Post by Tzortzakakis Dimitris

Post by Marco Struck
http://zone23.net/

Ja, richtig, sehr gut:-)Die Fotos sind eingezeichnet!

Thank you very much, but you should say 'ausgezeichnet', since
'eingezeichnet' means 'drawn-in'... :-)

Your name sounds greek, right? Ever been in Germany?


Marco

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http://zone23.net