Discussion:
Colour recovery [Was: Regex and more! [Was: Crossword puzzle]]
(too old to reply)
Phred
2009-11-04 13:44:30 UTC
Permalink
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).

From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(

[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]

Cheers, Phred.
--
***@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
n***@rtrussell.co.uk
2009-11-04 17:57:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phred
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
That's right.

Richard.
Bob Larter
2009-11-11 09:08:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phred
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.

Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Phred
2009-11-11 09:13:50 UTC
Permalink
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob. Have you tried that approach with slides?
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist? I haven't seen
mention of them for a few years now, not even ads. Perhaps like so
much else, they have succumbed to the mediocrity of the masses?)

Cheers, Phred.
--
***@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Bob Larter
2009-11-11 16:50:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob.
My pleasure.
Post by Phred
Have you tried that approach with slides?
No, I haven't. I've never shot slides on a regular basis.
Post by Phred
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist?
They sure do. Now would be a good time to pick up a used one cheap,
while all the pro's are converting to DSLRs.
I haven't shot slide film much myself, but I'm told that Nikon make a
good slide scanner. I'm sure that other people in the group will be able
to make good suggestions as to what's available now.
[rec.photo.digital added]
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
2009-11-11 15:54:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob.
My pleasure.
Post by Phred
Have you tried that approach with slides?
No, I haven't. I've never shot slides on a regular basis.
Post by Phred
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist?
They sure do. Now would be a good time to pick up a used one cheap,
while all the pro's are converting to DSLRs.
I haven't shot slide film much myself, but I'm told that Nikon make a
good slide scanner. I'm sure that other people in the group will be able
to make good suggestions as to what's available now.
[rec.photo.digital added]
Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
Home news-group, an actual group in the "troll-tracker" hierarchy:
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."

<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer>

"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."
Bob Larter
2009-11-11 16:56:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob.
My pleasure.
Post by Phred
Have you tried that approach with slides?
No, I haven't. I've never shot slides on a regular basis.
Post by Phred
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist?
They sure do. Now would be a good time to pick up a used one cheap,
while all the pro's are converting to DSLRs.
I haven't shot slide film much myself, but I'm told that Nikon make a
good slide scanner. I'm sure that other people in the group will be able
to make good suggestions as to what's available now.
[rec.photo.digital added]
Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."
<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer>
"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."
Don't mind the troll, Phred, he always follows up my posts with this
rubbish. ;^)
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
2009-11-11 16:07:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob.
My pleasure.
Post by Phred
Have you tried that approach with slides?
No, I haven't. I've never shot slides on a regular basis.
Post by Phred
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist?
They sure do. Now would be a good time to pick up a used one cheap,
while all the pro's are converting to DSLRs.
I haven't shot slide film much myself, but I'm told that Nikon make a
good slide scanner. I'm sure that other people in the group will be able
to make good suggestions as to what's available now.
[rec.photo.digital added]
Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."
<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer>
"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."
Don't mind the troll, Phred, he always follows up my posts with this
rubbish. ;^)
It would only be rubbish if it weren't true.


Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
Home news-group, an actual group in the "troll-tracker" hierarchy:
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."

<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer>

"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."
Bob Larter
2009-11-11 17:15:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up.
Post by Bob Larter
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
Post by Bob Larter
In article
So now I'm even more curious -- what do you mean by that "Full
gamut colour recovery"?
http://colourrecovery.wikispaces.com/
Thanks for that info Richard. I must admit I was mainly interested
because I have some old colour pics and slides that have seriously
degraded (especially 30-year-old Ectachrome slides taken when I was
foolish and ignorant enough to use it instead of Kodachrome).
From what I gather, your technique depends on "clues" in the recorded
image(s), so wouldn't be of much use to me? :-(
[But I admit I haven't yet followed *all* the links on that site.]
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
Personally, I recover faded photos by scanning them (with as many bits
per colour channel as possible), then re-levelling R,G & B in Photoshop
(16 bit mode). It gives you a pretty good result, & with some tweaking,
an excellent result - even on badly faded colour prints dating back to
the 70's.
Thanks for that advice Bob.
My pleasure.
Post by Phred
Have you tried that approach with slides?
No, I haven't. I've never shot slides on a regular basis.
Post by Phred
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. (Do those still exist?
They sure do. Now would be a good time to pick up a used one cheap,
while all the pro's are converting to DSLRs.
I haven't shot slide film much myself, but I'm told that Nikon make a
good slide scanner. I'm sure that other people in the group will be able
to make good suggestions as to what's available now.
[rec.photo.digital added]
Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."
<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer>
"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."
Don't mind the troll, Phred, he always follows up my posts with this
rubbish. ;^)
It would only be rubbish if it weren't true.
*belch*
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Warren
2010-03-17 16:42:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phred
[CLBM dropped from followups; aus.computers added]
..
Post by Phred
Post by Bob Larter
The process relies on residual chroma information retained on
cine-recorded colour TV programs, so it's of no use for film.
..
Post by Phred
Thanks for that advice Bob. Have you tried that approach with slides?
I guess it should work the same, but a problem could be scanning
slides with sufficient resolution without going to an expensive
dedicated slide scanner. ...
Cheers, Phred.
My wife and I just bought a small unit for $80 Cdn at Costco.
You can use it via USB, or just in your lap in front of the TV,
scanning into a memory stick. 5.x MP full colour scanned images.

Scan is more of a 0.5 second "picture take", since there is no
moving parts. You just advance the tray manually for the next
slide (or negative). It's quick compared to a scanner. You
spend all your time loading/unloading the slide tray.

Warren

Loading...