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Rot13 this, please...
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Tomasso
2010-12-05 12:12:00 UTC
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V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.

Guvf vf n pbaprea.

Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).

G.
Jeff R.
2010-12-05 12:17:55 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.
Guvf vf n pbaprea.
Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).
G.
Maybe I can post about WikiLeaks.org not being up, but numerous mirrors are.

There.

Howzat?
Tomasso
2010-12-05 12:23:52 UTC
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Post by Jeff R.
Post by Tomasso
V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.
Guvf vf n pbaprea.
Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).
G.
Maybe I can post about WikiLeaks.org not being up, but numerous mirrors are.
There.
Howzat?
Ta.

I'm sure everything is not normal, but not sure what is normal and what is not...

T.
Jeff R.
2010-12-05 12:28:03 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
Post by Jeff R.
Post by Tomasso
V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.
Guvf vf n pbaprea.
Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).
G.
Maybe I can post about WikiLeaks.org not being up, but numerous mirrors are.
There.
Howzat?
Ta.
I'm sure everything is not normal, but not sure what is normal and what is not...
T.
Well, *that's* pretty normal.

--
JR
Tomasso
2010-12-05 12:31:16 UTC
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Post by Jeff R.
Post by Tomasso
Post by Jeff R.
Post by Tomasso
V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.
Guvf vf n pbaprea.
Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).
G.
Maybe I can post about WikiLeaks.org not being up, but numerous mirrors are.
There.
Howzat?
Ta.
I'm sure everything is not normal, but not sure what is normal and what is not...
T.
Well, *that's* pretty normal.
Well, almost.

When news posts don't appear and they are the ones including URLs for WL,
while other news posts do appear, the inference is that suppressions is taking
place.

T.
k***@kymhorsell.com
2010-12-05 12:43:03 UTC
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In sci.skeptic Tomasso <***@air.com.au> wrote:
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Post by Tomasso
When news posts don't appear and they are the ones including URLs for WL,
while other news posts do appear, the inference is that suppressions is taking
place.
...

I've seen this happen before, during the run-up to GWII. But even then
you could go to the "control" group and find delete messages forging
your name.
--
nice try, but wikipedia is not a credible source.
-- Animal06 ["10,000 lakes"] <***@Friday.com>, 03 Dec 2010 13:05:47 -0500
Tomasso
2010-12-05 12:58:33 UTC
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Post by k***@kymhorsell.com
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Post by Tomasso
When news posts don't appear and they are the ones including URLs for WL,
while other news posts do appear, the inference is that suppressions is taking
place.
...
I've seen this happen before, during the run-up to GWII. But even then
you could go to the "control" group and find delete messages forging
your name.
--
nice try, but wikipedia is not a credible source.
Wasn't aware of suppression leading to GW2, but would believe.

However, this round is about diplomatic gossip! I know what they gossip about,
and it's not much different from (good) pub gossip, and is a reasonable reflection
of reality - not confirmed as truth, but reasonable, not validated, but what the
parties are probably using to make their decisions. Certainly stronger intelligence
that "weapons of mass destruction", which _apparently_ was the justification
for GW2.

What WL adds beyond the gossip, is the source of the gossip and some cred
about the content (because of source). Eg, if Hilary or Rice mumbled it,
it doesn't make it true, but it makes it a loud part of the game.

T.
Tomasso
2010-12-05 12:46:40 UTC
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Andre Rieu, Chris Mitchell, Darryl Somers, Sarah Palin or Julian Assange?

Think carefully before choosing...
s***@mailinator.com
2010-12-06 11:33:03 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
Andre Rieu, Chris Mitchell, Darryl Somers, Sarah Palin or Julian Assange?
Think carefully before choosing...
Well, I've already had dinner with Darryl so I'd go for Sarah Palin. She has better boobs
than the others.
Mr.T
2010-12-06 20:26:04 UTC
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Post by s***@mailinator.com
Post by Tomasso
Andre Rieu, Chris Mitchell, Darryl Somers, Sarah Palin or Julian Assange?
Think carefully before choosing...
Well, I've already had dinner with Darryl so I'd go for Sarah Palin. She has better boobs
than the others.
You're not into intelligent dinner conversation then obviously! :-)

MrT.
Murray
2010-12-14 14:30:15 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
Andre Rieu, Chris Mitchell, Darryl Somers, Sarah Palin or Julian Assange?
Think carefully before choosing...
Assange - he speaks my language. Oz. and some truth.

Rot 13 - haven't seen that in years. Is it in Thunderbird?
Tomasso
2010-12-14 23:00:08 UTC
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Post by Murray
Post by Tomasso
Andre Rieu, Chris Mitchell, Darryl Somers, Sarah Palin or Julian Assange?
Think carefully before choosing...
Assange - he speaks my language. Oz. and some truth.
Rot 13 - haven't seen that in years. Is it in Thunderbird?
Rot 13 in Outlook Express...

T.
Terrys
2010-12-14 23:53:54 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
Rot 13 in Outlook Express...
Lovely - what are the new `features' to break it?.
Tomasso
2010-12-15 00:22:14 UTC
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Post by Terrys
Post by Tomasso
Rot 13 in Outlook Express...
Lovely - what are the new `features' to break it?.
It's a bit bizarre and even quaint. OE Help says:

You cannot scramble messages and post them in Outlook Express,
but if someone has posted a scrambled message to a newsgroup
(using ROT13), you can unscramble it in Outlook Express and
make it readable.

Which of course is plainly wrong, because I was able to do it (by tricking OE).

T.

k***@kymhorsell.com
2010-12-05 12:41:32 UTC
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In sci.skeptic Tomasso <***@air.com.au> wrote:
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Post by Tomasso
I'm sure everything is not normal, but not sure what is normal and what is not...
This I can tell you. Since rot13 is a command on many newsreaders
you can assume echelon automatically searches everything in
that form as well as plain text. The great [one whose name
can't be written, even in pig Latin!] did it, too.
--
They said it was only luck. But the more I practised, the luckier I got.
-- Gary Player [and others]
F Murtz
2010-12-13 10:54:15 UTC
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Post by Tomasso
Post by Jeff R.
Post by Tomasso
V unir cbfgrq sbhe ercyvrf gb na cbfg nobhg "juvpxrl yrndhrf qbg bet"
naq gurl ner abg nccrnevat ba zl arjf freire.
Guvf vf n pbaprea.
Guvf vf n grfg gb frr vs V pna fhpprffshyyl cbfg n svsgu zrffntr nobhg vg
(juvpu bzvgf HEYf, cebfcrpgvir grezf naq ersreraprf gb gur cbfg
V ercyvrq gb rneyvre).
G.
Maybe I can post about WikiLeaks.org not being up, but numerous mirrors are.
There.
Howzat?
Ta.
I'm sure everything is not normal, but not sure what is normal and what is not...
T.
I hope he saved some good stuff for when the yanks extradite him from
Sweden.
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