[photo] Glasshouse Mountains

[Troy Piggins]

Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.

Any constructive critique appreciated.

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[Paul Furman]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I like it!

[Troy Piggins]

Post by Paul Furman

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I like it!

:) Thanks mate.

[Owen]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle.  Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg
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Troy Piggins

Love it, especially the foreground tree.

Something not quiet right, the clouds, I think, don't compose well

I placed in my editor, it was 1024x683

Cut the top 245 pixels from the height so it was 1024x438. Kinda wide
screen effect, looked better to me, though I agree beauty lies in the
eye of the beholder



Owen

[Troy Piggins]

Post by Owen

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle.  Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

Love it, especially the foreground tree.
Something not quiet right, the clouds, I think, don't compose well
I placed in my editor, it was 1024x683
Cut the top 245 pixels from the height so it was 1024x438. Kinda wide
screen effect, looked better to me, though I agree beauty lies in the
eye of the beholder

Thanks mate. I'll have a look at that crop you mentioned. I've
had comments that the top left sky needs more cloud. That's
possibly true, but not a lot I can do about it. I'm not cloning
one in there. :)

[John McWilliams]

Post by Troy Piggins

Post by Owen

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

Love it, especially the foreground tree.
Something not quiet right, the clouds, I think, don't compose well
I placed in my editor, it was 1024x683
Cut the top 245 pixels from the height so it was 1024x438. Kinda wide
screen effect, looked better to me, though I agree beauty lies in the
eye of the beholder

Thanks mate. I'll have a look at that crop you mentioned. I've
had comments that the top left sky needs more cloud. That's
possibly true, but not a lot I can do about it. I'm not cloning
one in there. :)

Nice shot as is! You could also try loping a tad off the foreground,
de-centering the horizon a bit more. And I bet it looks fine in color-
colour, too!- does it?

[Troy Piggins]

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Post by Troy Piggins
Thanks mate. I'll have a look at that crop you mentioned. I've
had comments that the top left sky needs more cloud. That's
possibly true, but not a lot I can do about it. I'm not cloning
one in there. :)

Nice shot as is! You could also try loping a tad off the foreground,
de-centering the horizon a bit more. And I bet it looks fine in color-
colour, too!- does it?

I didn't like the colour version, else I would've posted it. :)

[Noons]

Post by Owen
Something not quiet right, the clouds, I think, don't compose well
I placed in my editor, it was 1024x683
Cut the top 245 pixels from the height so it was 1024x438. Kinda wide
screen effect, looked better to me, though I agree beauty lies in the
eye of the beholder

Yeah, agreed: that definitely does it.

[s***@mailinator.com]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I'd chop that tree down. ;-)

BTW, Frank Hurley took a similar shot many moons ago:-

http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an23478006

[Troy Piggins]

Post by s***@mailinator.com

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I'd chop that tree down. ;-)
BTW, Frank Hurley took a similar shot many moons ago:-
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an23478006

The tree seems to be something people either think adds to the
shot or detracts, depending on taste. I like it in this shot,
but took another with the tree more centred and it looks
horrible, like the shot is about the tree, not the mountains.

I like that shot you posted. Wish there was a cool light like
that for me.

[Elliott Roper]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.

I think the burnoff adds a bit of post apocalypse mystery. I agree that
losing the top few pixels makes it look more cinematic, but really the
only thing I didn't like about that picture is that you are making me
homesick.

I'm a few km outside Manchester. It is a miserable drizzly day and you
are no help at all!

[Noons]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

That's North of Brissie, isn't it?
Dang, I'm gonna be up thee next month for a few days but no time to go imaging...
Nice shot, BTW. Clouds really work well in that sort of scenery.

[s***@mailinator.com]

Post by Noons
That's North of Brissie, isn't it?
Dang, I'm gonna be up thee next month for a few days but no time to go imaging...
Nice shot, BTW. Clouds really work well in that sort of scenery.

Inland from Maroochydore, so N/W of Brissie.

[Noons]

Post by s***@mailinator.com

Post by Noons
That's North of Brissie, isn't it?
Dang, I'm gonna be up thee next month for a few days but no time to go imaging...
Nice shot, BTW. Clouds really work well in that sort of scenery.

Inland from Maroochydore, so N/W of Brissie.

Yup, got it. Thanks.

[Troy Piggins]

Post by Noons

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

That's North of Brissie, isn't it?
Dang, I'm gonna be up thee next month for a few days but no
time to go imaging...

Yes, Maleny is probably the closest town. In the hinterland of
the Sunshine Coast north of Brisbane.

Post by Noons
Nice shot, BTW. Clouds really work well in that sort of scenery.

Thanks mate. I was actually quite surprised how well the 5DII
handled the dynamic range of the shot. The clouds aren't blown,
no filters were used, it's a single hand-held shot. I was sure
the darks would be more of a problem.

[Noons]

Post by Troy Piggins
Thanks mate. I was actually quite surprised how well the 5DII
handled the dynamic range of the shot. The clouds aren't blown,
no filters were used, it's a single hand-held shot. I was sure
the darks would be more of a problem.

Very cool! Did you meter on matrix (or whatever Canon calls it) or CW/spot?

[Troy Piggins]

Post by Noons

Post by Troy Piggins
Thanks mate. I was actually quite surprised how well the 5DII
handled the dynamic range of the shot. The clouds aren't blown,
no filters were used, it's a single hand-held shot. I was sure
the darks would be more of a problem.

Very cool! Did you meter on matrix (or whatever Canon calls it) or CW/spot?

Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

[Rob]

Post by Troy Piggins

Post by Noons

Post by Troy Piggins
Thanks mate. I was actually quite surprised how well the 5DII
handled the dynamic range of the shot. The clouds aren't blown,
no filters were used, it's a single hand-held shot. I was sure
the darks would be more of a problem.

Very cool! Did you meter on matrix (or whatever Canon calls it) or CW/spot?

Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

[Rob]

Post by Rob

Post by Troy Piggins

Thanks mate. I was actually quite surprised how well the 5DII
handled the dynamic range of the shot. The clouds aren't blown,
no filters were used, it's a single hand-held shot. I was sure
the darks would be more of a problem.

Very cool! Did you meter on matrix (or whatever Canon calls it) or
CW/spot?

Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

and clean the sensor.

[Troy Piggins]

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Post by Troy Piggins
Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

For fun, note the green line:
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Seriously, it's not a high dynamic range shot, so I'm not even
going to entertain the thought of using HDR. HDR gets
overused/misused/abused enough, I'm not going to add to that
steaming pile.

If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

[Rob]

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Post by Troy Piggins
Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

http://miguel.martinsalmeida.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/b2fef.png
Seriously, it's not a high dynamic range shot, so I'm not even
going to entertain the thought of using HDR. HDR gets
overused/misused/abused enough, I'm not going to add to that
steaming pile.
If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

No not that way it was with a single image shot. To me heaps of B&W lack
contrast and are just grey. We used to use either a red or yellow filter
with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to white
image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.

Did you get the message to clean the spots off the sensor?

[Savageduck]

Post by Rob

Post by Troy Piggins

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Post by Troy Piggins
Partial metering, but I metered pointing the to sky to make sure
that was less than 2 stops over, and foreground to make sure that
was less than 2 stops under.

you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

http://miguel.martinsalmeida.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/b2fef.png
Seriously, it's not a high dynamic range shot, so I'm not even
going to entertain the thought of using HDR. HDR gets
overused/misused/abused enough, I'm not going to add to that
steaming pile.
If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

No not that way it was with a single image shot. To me heaps of B&W
lack contrast and are just grey. We used to use either a red or yellow
filter with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to
white image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.
Did you get the message to clean the spots off the sensor?

For the Hell of it, I downloaded the 15 day trial of NIK Silver Efex
Pro plugin, and I have been pleasantly surprised at the degree of
control you have over the entire image by using the control points you
can apply for adjustment to the smallest area of the image. I think it
is a tool Adams would have used if he processed digital B&W. Try it
out, you might be surprised.
< http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefexpro/usa/entry.php >

I have been playing with it with some of my images to get something
different to the results I got from using the various CS5 B&W
conversion methods.
Here are two I converted using Silver Efex;
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[Troy Piggins]

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Post by Rob
filter with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to
white image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.
Did you get the message to clean the spots off the sensor?

For the Hell of it, I downloaded the 15 day trial of NIK Silver Efex
Pro plugin, and I have been pleasantly surprised at the degree of
control you have over the entire image by using the control points you
can apply for adjustment to the smallest area of the image. I think it
is a tool Adams would have used if he processed digital B&W. Try it
out, you might be surprised.
< http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefexpro/usa/entry.php >
I have been playing with it with some of my images to get something
different to the results I got from using the various CS5 B&W
conversion methods.
Here are two I converted using Silver Efex;
< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Barn-6112BWw.jpg >

That looks effective. Shame about the clouds, but the textures
on the shed look great.

< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Carrizo-1005tmBWw.jpg >

Not so much of a fan of this one. The sky looks like armageddon
has arrived.

[Savageduck]

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Post by Rob
filter with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to
white image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.
Did you get the message to clean the spots off the sensor?

For the Hell of it, I downloaded the 15 day trial of NIK Silver Efex
Pro plugin, and I have been pleasantly surprised at the degree of
control you have over the entire image by using the control points you
can apply for adjustment to the smallest area of the image. I think it
is a tool Adams would have used if he processed digital B&W. Try it
out, you might be surprised.
< http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefexpro/usa/entry.php >
I have been playing with it with some of my images to get something
different to the results I got from using the various CS5 B&W
conversion methods.
Here are two I converted using Silver Efex;
< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Barn-6112BWw.jpg >

That looks effective. Shame about the clouds, but the textures
on the shed look great.

Yup! Those clouds were tough. Also finding a level was tough. I did a
second version, leveling on the barn door.

Post by Troy Piggins

< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Carrizo-1005tmBWw.jpg >

Not so much of a fan of this one. The sky looks like armageddon
has arrived.

A few minutes later it felt like armageddon had arrived. That was the
proverbial "threatening" sky, and the place is just as desolate. That
is the Carrizo Plain which is bisected by the San Andreas Fault, with
the Temblor Range in the background. They are waiting for the "Big One"
there.

BTW: here is a screen shot of Silver Efex in action on the leveled
version of the barn.
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[Troy Piggins]

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Post by Troy Piggins
If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

No not that way it was with a single image shot. To me heaps of B&W lack
contrast and are just grey. We used to use either a red or yellow filter
with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to white
image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.

I see what you're saying, although don't see the link with HDR.
I'll have a bit more of a play with it to see if I can achieve
what you're describing.

Did you get the message to clean the spots off the sensor?

Yes. Thanks.

[Troy Piggins]

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Post by Troy Piggins
If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

No not that way it was with a single image shot. To me heaps of B&W lack
contrast and are just grey. We used to use either a red or yellow filter
with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to white
image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.

Just emulated a yellow filter, then had a little tweak. Think
this is more contrasty like you suggested? What do you think of
this edit? It did cause some funkiness on the branches of that
tree, but not that noticable at this scale unless you're really
looking for it.

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[Rob]

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Post by Troy Piggins
If I want to shoot a scene that has more dynamic range than my
sensor can handle, and it can't be solved with flash, I might
consider it then if I have a tripod etc with me. ;)

No not that way it was with a single image shot. To me heaps of B&W lack
contrast and are just grey. We used to use either a red or yellow filter
with B&W to increase the contract so there was a full black to white
image. I through the clouds could do with more punch and better
resolution through out the scene.

Just emulated a yellow filter, then had a little tweak. Think
this is more contrasty like you suggested? What do you think of
this edit? It did cause some funkiness on the branches of that
tree, but not that noticable at this scale unless you're really
looking for it.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/5134275321_8c153020b9_o.jpg

That's looking better. Your email good?

r

[Noons]

Post by Troy Piggins

Post by Rob
you could still get more kick out of it using HDR in PS5

http://miguel.martinsalmeida.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/b2fef.png

LOL! So true!

Post by Troy Piggins
Seriously, it's not a high dynamic range shot, so I'm not even
going to entertain the thought of using HDR. HDR gets
overused/misused/abused enough, I'm not going to add to that
steaming pile.

Yay! Piggo for prezz!
:)

[Paul Furman]

Post by Troy Piggins
http://miguel.martinsalmeida.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/b2fef.png

LOL!
Thanks.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I would have cropped off the upper 20% or so of the sky
(dead/uninteresting).

Nice, otherwise.

[Troy Piggins]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I would have cropped off the upper 20% or so of the sky
(dead/uninteresting).
Nice, otherwise.

Thanks mate. I've been playing with it since, based on some
feedback I've had, and have come up with this as my pick of the
edits. Puts more focus on the subject matter IMO.

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[Alan Browne]

Post by Troy Piggins

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Troy Piggins
Glasshouse Mountains in the background there are remnants of a
volcano, with the volcanic plug in the middle. Shame the scene
was a little spoiled by the smoke from a burnoff there.
Any constructive critique appreciated.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5125148504_d8101b2170_o.jpg

I would have cropped off the upper 20% or so of the sky
(dead/uninteresting).
Nice, otherwise.

Thanks mate. I've been playing with it since, based on some
feedback I've had, and have come up with this as my pick of the
edits. Puts more focus on the subject matter IMO.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/5134964065_011536d489_o.jpg

Much nicer, but I would have left more of the original FG ...